tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19018855.post113446964362224247..comments2023-09-09T01:31:22.572+12:00Comments on stupid internet name: torturous logicFrank Stupidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11288731628049347676noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19018855.post-1136862671358768372006-01-10T16:11:00.000+13:002006-01-10T16:11:00.000+13:00Do you not think that analysing the real world in ...Do you not think that analysing the real world in the light of fictional television series is a bit wrongheaded?<BR/><BR/>The situations you describe almost never happen - have you ever heard of a court trial where the accused wilfuly withheld information that could save someone's life? I have never seen one reported.Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17092996828683002246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19018855.post-1134530835730983002005-12-14T16:27:00.000+13:002005-12-14T16:27:00.000+13:00hmm, I think you need to work on your characterisa...hmm, I think you need to work on your characterisation: <BR/><BR/>US Soldier: "If you don't give us the names of your terrorist compatriots YOU WILL MAKE THE BABY JESUS CRY!!"Frank Stupidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11288731628049347676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19018855.post-1134529887872609342005-12-14T16:11:00.000+13:002005-12-14T16:11:00.000+13:00"[L]ives will be lost if we don't get this informa..."[L]ives will be lost if we don't get this information out of this horrible, horrible person right damn now... Thing is, do these situations occur in real life? Like, ever?"<BR/><BR/>Yeah, all the time, apparently:<BR/><BR/>US Soldier: "If you don't give us the names of your terrorist compatriots RIGHT NOW Saddam Hussein will kill a blond orphan puppie!!!"<BR/><BR/>Second Generation American of Apathy Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04665899730591411188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19018855.post-1134516616788513512005-12-14T12:30:00.000+13:002005-12-14T12:30:00.000+13:00Well, I went into work at a software company.At an...Well, I went into work at a software company.<BR/><BR/>At any rate, to tease the hypothetical torture-justifying scenario out more, it seems we need to be sure of at least four things:<BR/><BR/>1. The information being obtained is necessary for some greater good (usually to save lives).<BR/><BR/>2. The Bad Guy has the information.<BR/><BR/>3. Torture will definitely get the information out of theJoshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12428777233351272669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19018855.post-1134511545560537602005-12-14T11:05:00.000+13:002005-12-14T11:05:00.000+13:00More to the point, what kind of self-respecting fa...More to the point, what kind of self-respecting fanatical, baby-killing, suicide bombing terrorist is going to 'fess up after just being shot in the thigh?? Bunch of goddamn pansies if you ask me. Doesn't anyone read Satre anymore?<BR/><BR/>But anyway, Jack's question (um, Apathy Jack, not Jack Bauer) was is there ever a morally clear reason for torture, which I'm interpreting to mean is torture Frank Stupidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11288731628049347676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19018855.post-1134511435522408932005-12-14T11:03:00.000+13:002005-12-14T11:03:00.000+13:00do bombs still tick in the digital age?do bombs still tick in the digital age?Spanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16896745511007816190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19018855.post-1134505635061342212005-12-14T09:27:00.000+13:002005-12-14T09:27:00.000+13:00Yes, whenever you ask someone to come up with a si...Yes, whenever you ask someone to come up with a situation that could justify torture, it's always the ticking bomb one -- lives will be lost if we don't get this information out of this horrible, horrible person <B>right damn now</B>. TV shows manage to contrive such situations, e.g. "Lost" and most notably "24", which, being one season-long ticking clock, seems to consist entirely of Jack Bauer Joshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12428777233351272669noreply@blogger.com